tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post639735136456318417..comments2023-08-17T07:44:09.940-04:00Comments on MargeBlog: The Problem With Dog TrainingSamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18146649374510678844noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-3673842887208660272012-01-26T12:53:43.431-05:002012-01-26T12:53:43.431-05:00I like AC's idea of an equal value of private ...I like AC's idea of an equal value of private classes if you have to pull a disruptive dog.<br /><br />I've been "that person" with the dog who starts barking during class and won't stop, and I'm really glad the teacher's answer was not "stay home" but to show me some methods of distraction.<br /><br />I think that class size can be an issue because the more people you have, the harder it is to meet individual needs, the more distractions there are, and the more crowded the space gets. I took one dog to a basic obedience class that was us and one other dog, and it went *fabulously.* Though I'm sure it sucked for the trainer to get only 2 class fees instead of six or eight. <br /><br />Having more expensive small classes that are still cheaper than one-on-one sessions might be a good option, particuarly if it's a Shy Dog or Reactive Dog class.KellyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00107695659185335269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-52367125578504871762011-07-26T11:15:26.977-04:002011-07-26T11:15:26.977-04:00When I first got Kona, I only knew traditional dog...When I first got Kona, I only knew traditional dog training. I didn't know what I didn't know. I think it's trickiest to get people past this point on the learning curve. Providing enough info and experience that they realize they have a lot to learn.<br /><br />I'm more on the side that many disruptive dogs shouldn't be in group classes. My thought is that either a)the human needs one-on-one time to get down the basics, or b)the dog is too reactive/overstimulated/whatever in the class environment and needs help with the basics. In either case, the group environment is just too much and doesn't set either the dog or owner up for success.<br /><br />I don't think it's cool for a trainer to only say "stay home." But I think it's equally not cool for the dog/handler team to be unsuccessful while disturbing the rest of class. Solution...? Maybe pull the dog out of class in exchange for an equal value of private lessons?AChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11851263591445841749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-43447548479189630102011-07-20T09:17:13.033-04:002011-07-20T09:17:13.033-04:00Before we found Gigi for our bigger picture needs,...Before we found Gigi for our bigger picture needs, several trainers (in agility mostly) essentially booted me and Lilly from class (aka kindly told me that perhaps Lilly would be better just staying at home). I suspect for these same reasons. Goodness knows I was trying, but our challenges were much bigger than most.Roxanne @ Champion of My Hearthttp://www.championofmyheart.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-7246190692382285782011-07-20T09:04:32.119-04:002011-07-20T09:04:32.119-04:00Our teacher does a combination of group and indivi...Our teacher does a combination of group and individual classes, which I think is a good model. That way, people with more complicated issues to deal with can have one-on-one time to learn more. <br /><br />I've seen the kind of situations that you're describing in classes that I've taken, and I can see the bind that the teacher is in so I understand your frustration!KBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16885661679762446456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-75949088323555007252011-07-19T21:31:34.043-04:002011-07-19T21:31:34.043-04:00I feel your pain! In the current class that we...I feel your pain! In the current class that we're working with, we have one girl who just doesn't get it at all! Her dog is extremely smart, but she blames all her shortcomings on the dog. You tell her something and three seconds later, she's back to doing what she was doing before. I'm so glad class is done next week! I haven't found an effective way for dealing with the situation yet, but I sympathize.houndstoothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02159272473651561647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-2787584591072286802011-07-19T15:30:22.789-04:002011-07-19T15:30:22.789-04:00Perhaps you could send them home with a good artic...Perhaps you could send them home with a good article to read? I know that happens all the time in my classes.Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07715453703592474992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-61541565506362799792011-07-19T14:41:56.295-04:002011-07-19T14:41:56.295-04:00you've nailed one of the biggest problems I se...you've nailed one of the biggest problems I see ...people need more attention to understand the key concepts at first - and until they get it there isn't much point in firing a whole lot of info at them ... the teacher pet thing makes me crazy ...<br /><br />it's a tough position (yours) I;m sure when you are running your own facility things will be better for you! Thanks for all you do trying to help the dogs:)andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911146116540091798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-2899420987992273392011-07-19T14:32:56.978-04:002011-07-19T14:32:56.978-04:00Sounds like you are doing your best, it sounds ver...Sounds like you are doing your best, it sounds very difficult!An English Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17538962642970952214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-40932986442209458452011-07-19T12:36:57.674-04:002011-07-19T12:36:57.674-04:00My comment got a little out of hand: http://greenl...My comment got a little out of hand: http://greenlight-gatsby.blogspot.com/2011/07/problem-of-dog-training-theory-and.htmlRaeganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04993187206192547252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768075887820301634.post-2514067447498176002011-07-19T12:13:25.267-04:002011-07-19T12:13:25.267-04:00I find the same thing and it is getting easier to ...I find the same thing and it is getting easier to accept that sometimes it is just not the place to go into the whole HUGE background that is necessary so the owner would understand what might be needed, but it is hard to hear some other instructors talk about the average pet parents who just dont know, they are not stupid and a lot of times they are hungry for knowledge a lot of times i think they just do not know where to find it and there is so much to tell to just bring them up to speed. Most of the info that is readily available is info that gives magic instant cures which are usually things that make your hair curl. I feel bad for caring owners that just do not know.Kathy Mocharnukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03029142726866533193noreply@blogger.com